A Critical Analysis of Various Teachings Found in the Book “Damning Assumptions” Authored by Max H. Sotac Th.D.
Analysis written by
Shawn W. Atkins
Section 1 – Dealing with doctrinal presumptions
Section 2 – Comments on various parts of the book
Section 1
Doctrinal Presumption
Matthew 18:8-9 talks about the end of the wicked being thrown into “eternal fire.” Fudge states:
“Gehenna is the “eternal” fire for two reasons. First, it is not part of the present age but the age to come. It does not belong to time but to eternity. Second, those who go into it suffer everlasting destruction. When the unquenchable fire finally destroys the lost, they will be gone forever.”
The presumption here is that “this age” is historical ‘created’ time and the “age to come” is non-historical, timeless eternity. The former is the ‘dimension’ where physical life takes place, for a time until it ends, the latter is the ‘dimension’ where “eternity” or eternal life takes place, for an unlimited amount of time, i.e., not having an end. Built into the above presumption is the thought that “time” will end, i.e., “this age” will end. Time is thought to have a beginning and an ending, but the “age to come” is thought to be eternal. Thus many look for the supposed end of the world, or the end of history (and time). Time and history are said to end at the “final judgment” or “last judgment” of the world.
Mr. Sotak’s book is built heavily upon the above presumption and view of time and eternity. I believe the above presumption to be false and any doctrine that is built on it should be reformulated on either a stronger foundation or scrapped. I will provide a brief alternative to this view.
When eternity is seen as unending time then the meaning of age (ages, this age, age to come, etc.) is made clearer, having a reference point within unending time. Rather than viewing “eternity” as an outer-worldly ‘dimension’ outside of time and space a more sober view should be taken. Defining eternity as time in its entire unending extension (unlimited in both backward and forward directions) is simple and precise. Now, to have a backward and forward direction to eternity means that at some point in unending time God acted in bringing something into time. Of course the first instance that we have recorded for us of God doing just such a thing is found in Genesis 1. The creation act was not the creation or beginning of time, but of something within time. God’s first words were not “and let there be time.”
Whatever is brought into time is limited in time in two possible ways. First, in being brought into endless time it is limited in one direction (the backward) but unlimited in the other direction (the forward). It has a beginning but not an end. Second, by design it could be limited in both directions; in the backward direction by having a beginning and in the forward direction by having an end. But in either case, it is NOT time itself that begins and ends, but rather that which has entered into time or which has ceased to exist in time.
The scriptures speak of “this age” and the “age to come,” but only in respect to redemptive (biblical) history. Both ages enter into time itself. Both ages have a beginning point. One age has a beginning and ending, “this age.” We know that “this age” has an end because it is replaced by “the age to come.” We also know that “the age to come” has a beginning because it ‘comes’ (begins) and replaces the former age. Thus both ages enter into time and eternity, and thus one age CANNOT be time and the other age eternity as is proposed in the presumption.
Scripture records redemptive history, not world history or profane/secular history. Scriptures terminology (e.g., “age,” “age to come,” “eternal”) must be defined within its context. From beginning to end scripture records the redemptive history of Israel. The Hebrew Moses begins the story and the Hebrew Apostle John ends the story. The bible contains a completed redemptive historical narrative. The narrative is set within a covenantal framework. Within this redemptive historical context we find the biblical author’s meaning of the terms “this age” and “the age to come.”
Jesus came at the end of the age, i.e, the end of “this age.” Within the redemptive historical narrative we find Jesus entering the scene at the end of a certain history, a history based within the framework of a certain covenant. The (what we call) “old covenant” world, or age, was coming to an end, and the work and ministry of Christ was to bring in a “new covenant” world, or age. The apostles not only lived at the end of this age, but preached the message of its soon coming end. The end of the age, i.e., the passing away of the old-covenant way of life, is that time from Christ’s announcement of the new covenant way of life (his gospel proclamation and invitation) until Christ’s Parousia when the old covenant way of life is completely destroyed (in 70 A.D.). The N.T. was written with this time frame and its authors lived and preached within this time frame (the transition from “this age” to “the age to come” or from “old covenant life” to “new covenant life”). Going back to the original author’s context we arrive at their meaning of words and terms used within their history. It was their age that was ending and it was them that looked for the age to come. This “age to come” was about to come to them in time and history, it had a beginning point (within time) which logically disqualifies it from being eternity, eternal, or the “eternal state” (as some say).
Engaging the Above Argument with Mr. Sotac’s “Damning Assumptions”
On page 31 of the book Mr. Sotac introduces the traditionalist argument, from Matthew 12:31-32, that not forgiven means never forgiven, because this age and the age to come covers both time and eternity; meaning the un-forgiven are eternally guilty. The traditionalists use that scripture to say that guilt lasts forever (and consequentially the punishment of the guilty). But rather then engaging the traditionalist exegetically here Mr. Sotac grants the traditionalists their false presumption and then agrees with it. He says “Conditionalists agree with these verses too, which is why they believe that once a person is punished and destroyed, he will never be forgiven by God or brought back to life” in the context of “the age to come” being a sort of eternal state. BUT the traditionalist argument on this scripture has no exegetical warrant anyhow, and now, neither does the conditionalists who agrees with these scriptures too. Mr. Sotac is engaging the traditionalist within the traditionalists faulty ‘box’ at this point, rather than crushing the box.
But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” Knowing their thoughts, [Jesus] said to them. . . But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. . . Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (Matthew 12:24-32)
Where is the exegetical warrant in bringing out the eternal state, the after-life, punishment in the after-life, etc. from this scripture? The context is set when Jesus heals a demon possessed man and the Pharisee’s accuse Jesus of essentially using sorcery, the power of Satan, to perform such miracles. These same Phairsee’s who are big on accusing Jesus and others of blasphemy against God have just attributed the power of God, i.e., the Holy Spirit, to that of Satan; they have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. They have rebelled against God and all that is good.
There is/was no forgiveness for these men in the age in which they lived for blasphamey. There was no sacrifice, offering, restitution, etc. under the law-covenant way of life. Just like the murderer, the law provided no forgiveness for them, as could be found for other sins under the law (e.g., speaking a word against your neighbor. In the Phairisee’s case here their neighbor is Jesus; there was a way of forgiveness in the law age when speaking against your neighbor which the Pharisee’s could have pursued and thus received forgiveness.). And LIKEWISE in the age to come, i.e., the new covenant way of life, there is no way of forgiveness set up for the blasphemer of the Holy Spirit. There is no atonement/forgiveness (under the N.C. blood of Christ) for the one who rejects the work of Christ as it was wrought by the power of God, and the Holy Spirit. In the new covenant age to come the blasphemer remains un-forgiven just like the blasphemer in the old covenant age, because in both ages (covenants) there is no sacrifice/atonement to pursue for such a one.
Eternal un-forgiveness, eternal guilt, eternal punishment, etc. is not being taught in this scripture. The traditionalist tries to use this scripture to support eternal guilt and punishment of the un-forgiven because of his false presumption that “the age to come” is equivalent to the “eternal state.” And the conditionalist errs in debating the traditionalist on this scripture when he does so based on the same false presumption.
Doctrinal Presumption
“[Sinners] are justly punished for the sins of that one life [in hell] and then mercifully terminated.”
The assumption here, which is held by traditionalists as well, is that there is more than one justice of God to be served upon the guilty party. In this conditionalist statement we find 3 justices to be served out to the guilty party. Here is an example related to the statement: An adulterer is found guilty of his crime in accordance with the law of God. God’s law demands that justice be served upon the guilty party. The adulterer is then stoned (the means) to death (the ends, i.e., the punishment). The adulterer now ‘goes to hell’ where he will have another justice sentence served upon him. He will be punished in hell for some duration of time. After the adulterer is finished with this punishment a third phase of justice is served upon him. The adulterer is destroyed completely.
Where in the law/word of God does it teach that multiple phases of justice are required? Was not the law of God and justice perfectly served when the adulterer was stoned per the law’s requirement? Or for the traditionalist, where is it taught in the law of God that an infinite number of punishments, or justice services, are required? Whether you have 3 justice services like the conditionalist, or infinite justice services like the traditionalists, both are based on the assumption of multiple justice services.
One thing should be noted about Mr. Sotak’s above statement. He says that the sinner is “mercifully terminated”, but earlier in his book he argues that the “fires of hell” consume the sinner (unto destruction) and he does so in the context of these fires representing God’s wrath. This seems like a contradiction. Is this consumption (termination) God’s wrath or God’s mercy? It surely cannot be both. Does God mercifully inflict his wrath? If the consumption and termination of the sinner by the fires of hell is God’s wrath then it is not done mercifully. The term “mercifully terminated” in its fullest sense is “mercifully consumed by God’s wrath in the fires of hell” when the conditionalist argument on the nature of the fires of hell is seen. The term is an oxymoron unless the conditionalist changes his argument on the consuming fires of hell in relation to God’s wrath.
Doctrinal Presumption
“His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:12)
Mr. Sotak say’s the following about this verse:
“John the Baptist is speaking here of the Messiah’s salvation and judgment. John says that the chaff, referring to the wicked, will be burned up. To conditionalists, this clearly suggests the termination of the wicked, since fire disintegrates what it burns. . . We would conclude that the final judgment will result in ultimate annihilation.”
He then dives into explaining “the controversy about hell” in relation to John’s judgment language of “unquenchable fire.” The presumption here, for both the traditionalist and conditionalist, is that the bible’s judgment language or “consuming fire” language is usually a reference to “hell” itself; this “hell” being a place or state in some ‘dimension’ of the after-life, i.e., a place for the soul to endure some form of punishment. I believe this presumption is based on tradition and that the belief is inserted into these texts (eisegesis) rather than drawn out of the texts (exegesis). I find fault with the traditionalist and conditionalists interpretation of scripture again. The conditionalist errs in debating the traditionalist within the traditionalist’s ‘box’ rather than crushing the ‘box’. I will provide a brief alternative to the “traditional” view of these judgment texts.
Rather than preaching the message of a fiery judgment for the soul in the ‘after-life’ John the Baptist is speaking, as the last of the OT prophets, to Israel about future judgment. It is extremely common for the prophets of Israel to speak about the coming judgment and wrath of God upon apostate Israel. The final judgment comes when the Messiah comes, hence John’s words “he who is coming after me. . . HE will burn the chaff with unquenchable fire.” The word ‘final’ in “final judgment” presupposes a series of judgments. This series of judgments, in biblical history, was against apostate Israel time and time again. John is announcing the fiery wrath of God that will consume apostate Israel once and for all. This is not a judgment against secular world history, the end of time, or a dimension of the after-life—again, the bible narrates the history of Israel.
The “fiery judgment” of the “last days” is the final judgment that was poured out upon apostate Israel when Israel was utterly consumed at the ‘appearing’ of the messiah in the year 70 A.D. Much of the scriptures that traditionalists use as a reference for an eternal hell are actually a reference to the eternal judgment that was brought against Israel. For example in the explanation of the “parable of the weeds” Jesus says:
He answered, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the close of the age, and the reapers are angels. Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the close of the age. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace; In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 13:36-42)
The age that was ending was the old covenant age. At the close of that age apostate Israel would be judged. The chaff is gathered into the barn to be burned. When Judgment was poured out upon Israel in 70 A.D. apostate Jews were gathered from all over Judea and brought into Jerusalem. Jerusalem was then closed off and shut up as in a prison by the Roman armies and the Jews were trapped inside as the Romans made their siege. The historian Josephus records how a fire was set which consumed the temple and the priests and how a great slaughter of the apostate Jews was taking place, he also records an awful noise, the “weeping and gnashing of teeth”, from the flames as the apostates were consumed by the fire and put to death by the sword. The fiery furnace is Jerusalem in its final judgment.
We should not take the flaming, consuming, fires of God’s wrath in final judgment outside of its historical context. Jesus was sent to Israel and taught and warned Israel about her final judgment in the fires of hell. Even the eternal nature of the fire is better understood in the historical context. The judgment against apostate Israel was final, it was eternal. The fires that consumed her were unquenchable and eternal in the sense that it completely destroyed her—never to rise again. Her eternal judgment was a permanent judgment.
“her plagues will come in a single day, death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her. . . The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.” (Revelation 18:8, 19:3)
Doctrinal Presumption
Mr. Sotak agrees with traditionalists when saying that “The sufferings [punishments] of hell will be justly proportional to the sins committed in this life” and “most conditionalists believe in degrees of punishment [in hell].” Both the traditionalist and the conditionalist presume that a sinner needs to go to a place, they call hell, in order to receive God’s wrath, fulfilling justice. Both may disagree on the nature and duration of this wrath, but that there are degrees of punishment and that actual punishment will take place for at least some time is promoted by both views. I was unable to find any exegetical support for this presumption in Mr. Sotak’s book. The closest thing I found was a reference to Luke 12:47-48 where the “few blows” and “many blows” given to a servant in a parable was laxly seen as degrees of punishment in this place called hell. A brief look at the context of this parable will show that levels of punishment in the after-life is not being taught.
“Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks. You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Peter said, “Lord, are you telling this parable for us or for all?” And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom his master will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the proper time? Blessed is that servant
whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. But if that servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed in coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces and put him with the unfaithful. And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more. (Luke 12:35-48)
First and foremost this is a parable not a didactic teaching on hell. The “few blows” and “many blows” is a detail given in the parable highlighting two different consequences of the actions of the two characters (also details of the parable). A Detail given in a parable is designed to add colorful practicality to the meaning of a teaching, but is not the meaning itself. Jesus is teaching his disciples to prepare themselves for his parousia. Jesus is the master and the disciples are the servants. While Jesus is away he wants his disciples to be good stewards of all that he has given them. This is made clear at the conclusion of the teaching “to much is given much is required.” Though the master is delayed in his coming his disciples must still remain faithful, and still remain good stewards. If they fall away they will be counted among the unfaithful and judged accordingly.
We find this warning of Jesus having extreme significance just prior to the 70 A.D. parousia. Many disciples were questioning the coming of Christ to end the old covenant, many were falling away from the new covenant way of life and going back to the old, and many failed to be faithful and heed Christ’s warning of coming judgment. Those who fell away and did not come outside of the camp of the unfaithful were counted among the unfaithful and punished with them, just like a servant who did not heed his master’s words and was beaten accordingly.
The historical context of the faithful is those who left the old covenant and entered the new covenant and remained there. The falling away that occurred during Christ’s 40 year departure was that of the “once enlightened” going back to the old covenant law way of life (You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. Galatians 5:4). Christ was teaching his disciples to remain faithful to the new covenant and to be good stewards of its promises; he was not teaching degrees of punishment for the souls of all sinners (through-out world history) in the after-life or hell. If a traditionalist or conditionalist is going to teach that there are degrees of punishment in hell, then it is going to have to be on much more solid ground then the minor details of a parable concerning the 1st century disciples faithfulness and stewardship requirements.
Mr. Sotak makes a (in my opinion great) simple, biblical, and precise, statement when he says “the justice of God is fully satisfied when the wrath of God is propitiated” in the context of perfect or complete justice. Unfortunately Mr. Sotak departs from this truth when he goes along with the traditionalist in bringing justices’ satisfaction beyond the wrath of God in teaching that hell is where levels of punishments take place. In Romans 13 Paul makes a simple and precise statement as well regarding the propitiation of God’s wrath:
whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer (Romans 13:2-4)
We see that the “incurring judgment” and the “carrying out of God’s wrath” are done by the sword in this world. Justice is satisfied and the wrath of God propitiated in the flesh, or rather, by the destruction of the flesh, and not by some sort of levels of punishment to the soul in some other nether-world dimension. Paul also makes it clear earlier in Romans when the wrath of God is revealed from heaven by the consequences (judgments) that take place in the flesh:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. . . they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. . . God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves. . . receiving in their flesh the due penalty for their error (Romans 1)
If the wrath of God is carried out by the sword (whether by stoning, burning, hanging, etc.), and the sword is designed to destroy the flesh, then the wrath of God is complete in the destruction of the flesh. The conditionalist accuses the traditionalist of going beyond what is required by divine justice in the traditionalist view of eternal punishment, but the conditionalist does the same; extending punishment beyond the infliction of God’s wrath.
Was the unquenchable fire, wrath, and final judgment that came upon apostate Israel something that also takes place in hell? Is, or was, Israel sent to a nether-world dimension to be further punished for her sins, or did the destruction of her flesh by the eternal fire satisfy divine justice and propitiate God’s wrath? I believe the latter to have more biblical warrant. We also have the same example in the true Israel of God, Jesus Christ. Paul says:
By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, God condemned sin in the flesh (Romans 8:3).
God’s wrath upon sin, the sin of the elect, was fully propitiated upon the death of Christ, i.e., the death of his flesh. No further punishments, levels of punishments, justice services, tortures, etc. were required…ONLY the destruction (death) of the flesh as is plainly required in the Law of God. According to the bible God operates and interacts with man in time and in history, and numerous examples are given that show that God inflicts his wrath and satisfies his justice in time and in history as well.
Doctrinal Presumptions Conclusion
I believe that Mr. Sotak’s doctrinal presumptions are essentially equivalent to those of his opponent, the traditionalist, in his book “Damning Assumptions.” Or, to state it simply, I believe Mr. Sotak is too much of a traditionalist himself. As I mentioned a couple times above, instead of Mr. Sotak crushing the traditionalist’s ‘box’ he argues with the traditionalists within the same ‘box’. I do praise his courage and biblical (rather than traditional) commitment in questioning the traditionalist’s unearned monopoly on the subject of eternal punishment and hell and his efforts towards bringing that monopoly down. The Berean spirit is alive and well in the Church today.
Section 2
Definition of Terms
Throughout Mr. Sotak’s book I found a lack of the definition of terms as well as an assumption that the terms used by traditionalists were correct. Rather than biblically defining, for example “hell,” the traditional thought is assumed. The traditionalist view is the view that is being questioned and presented as wrong; why assume that the ideas behind the terms they employ are biblical (or at the least, why are they not questioned)? Things such as “death,” “torment,” “eternal punishment,” “justice,” “wrath,” and “the soul” are all, in my opinion, defined through the traditionalist’s pre-determined paradigm. It is not these terms and concepts that determine, or help determine, the traditionalist view on hell, rather it is the traditionalist view on hell that determines the definition of these terms and concepts. It seems that both the traditionalist and the conditionalist start at the same basic definition of the terms involved in this topic. Whose paradigm is being employed?
When writing about “the resurrection,” for example, it would need to be defined especially when engaging someone whose paradigm is in question. Then, even after defining the term, more definition is likely going to need to be done. If two opponents agree that “resurrection” is raising (life) from the dead (death) then surely an understanding of “the dead” is going to need to be pursued. If it is not pursued, and one person sees the dead as physical corpses and the other sees the dead as unregenerate living persons, then though resurrection is talked about by both opponents the debate will not progress. Likewise, in Mr. Sotak’s book I find a lack of progression due primarily to the “taking for granted” some of the biblical terms and concepts employed.
Immortality and the soul
Mr. Sotak does a good job in chapter 1 showing that immortality is not a natural endowment of the soul, but is rather supernatural, i.e., coming outside of one’s-self from God, in Christ, as a gift. Several of the traditionalist’s arguments on the natural immortality of the soul are brought out and then easily refuted. But one thing that was left un-answered at the end of the chapter was the nature of the soul, and the “other side of the coin,” sort of speak, towards eternal consciousness. Mr. Sotak says that “God alone has immortality because only God is immortal by nature” and with that statement, being true, the natural immortality of Man goes out the window–but what about “consciousness” (the other side of the coin)?
With Mr. Sotak’s biblical view of immortality, something to be sought in Christ, eternal consciousness is swept under the rug, i.e., he attempts to refute his opponent in one fell swoop without dealing with the other aspect. I will try to clarify how this seems to be done. Eternal consciousness is being equated (in a round-about way) with the immortality of the soul. Mr. Sotak is proving (rightly) that the immortality of the soul is not a natural aspect of man and that it is something that belongs to God alone. Man therefore does not have an immortal soul. Eternal consciousness is now left untouched and dismissed. In this way Mr. Sotak now does not have to deal with the nature of the soul nor the nature of consciousness. But without dealing with these things the insightful traditionalist will remain un-refuted.
Is “consciousness” the “soul”? Is the “soul” “consciousness”? Are they both one and the same? Is an animal conscious of its surroundings? If so does an animal then have a soul? Most dictionary definitions on consciousness do not include or even mention the soul. Eternal consciousness cannot be refuted by a refutation of the immortality of the soul. If the immortality of the soul is, biblically speaking, eternal life in Jesus Christ then we would all have to agree that the soul is not naturally immortal, but rather is naturally mortal. But are those who do not have eternal life in Christ conscience? Of course they are. The unregenerate possess just as much consciousness as the regenerate. Especially if Mr. Sotak maintains the biblical definition of immortality (which he should), consciousness remains an entirely separate topic to be debated.
Miscellaneous Comments and Questions
-Speaking on immortality Mr. Sotak says: “Adam and Eve were dependent on the tree of life before they fell and could have continued to live without death even after they fell. . . the tree of life, not some immortal quality, was responsible for the sustenance of their earthly lives.” What I gather from this statement is that Mr. Sotak believes that some sort of physical fruit, on planet earth, has innate power to provide man, fallen or un-fallen, with everlasting physical life. From the natural realm, science, and biblical teaching, I find it hard to believe that such super-natural fruit exists (or existed). What if I ate this fruit just before jumping out of an air plane with no parachute; would I just get back up after all my bones break and my internal organs explode? Can man obtain “incorruption” outside of Christ by finding this magical fruit and eating it? In my opinion Mr. Sotak loses a little bit of credibility in his argument at this point by bringing in such mysticism.
-Throughout the book Mr. Sotak interchanges his terminology in regards to his opposition to the traditionalist view of the after-life. He uses the terms “eternal consciousness,” “eternal punishment,” “eternal torment” and then “endless conscious torment” interchangeably; applying them to his opponent’s view. But which one are you specifically arguing against? “Eternal consciousness” of the unregenerate is not necessarily “eternal punishment” and “eternal torment” is not necessarily “eternal punishment” and “punishment” and “torment” are not the same thing. If I stub my toe and am in torment all night because of it, neither my toe nor my conscience is being punished. One can hold to “conscious torment” without holding to the traditionalist view of “eternal/everlasting punishment(s).”
Along the same lines Mr. Sotak equates “torment” with “torture;” he says, in the context of the traditionalist’s poor view of God’s mercy and justice: “The concept of mercy is difficult to learn when we are seeking to imitate a God who torments his enemies without mercy forever.” I believe that this statement paints with too broad a brush. Perhaps some traditionalists believe that God does torture his enemies forever, but it is unlikely that all who hold to an “eternal consciousness” position would believe that God inflicts the torment/torture himself. As was shown in the “stubbed toe” example, one may find himself in a state of torment without that state of torment being the direct result of God’s punishment or torture. One can be in a state of torment without being in a state of torture or punishment. The “tormented” person may be tormented solely because of the results of his circumstances and not the imposition of an outside force.
-In regards to the “tortures” of hell that Mr. Sotak accuses the traditionalist as having, resulting in a lack of mercy; does he forget that his conditionalist view also has the same hell, torture, and punishment going on as well? Only his view is restricted in the “eternal state” by some condition or duration of “time.” Both the traditionalist and the conditionalist church must equally teach the torture of God’s enemies, being it is only the condition of time (in the supposed timeless eternal state) that separates the two positions and NOT the punishments in hell.
-On page 72 Mr. Sotak informs his readers that the conditionalist is often accussed of being to lenient or “letting people of easy” in their view of punishment for sin. I’m curious if some ever accuse the conditionalist of being too harsh. The conditionalist takes the traditionalist’s whole doctrine on hell (its tortures, punishments, torments, etc.) and then adds to it a whole new level of retribution (punishment), i.e., utter destruction. Again, taking all the negative connotations that come with the traditional doctrine on hell (besides the “time” factor), the conditionalist simply adds to it.
Footnotes_____________________________________
[1] Fudge, Edward William. The Fire that Consumes page 44
[1] “Eternal life” here is meant to convey one’s existence (life) in the so called ‘eternal state’, not eternal life in a salvation sense. It is one’s state in eternity; whether in hell, annihilated, in the grave, or in heaven.
[1] Damning Assumptions page 81 (and elsewhere)
[1] The alternative view is being mostly taken from another author who I am leaving un-named at this time.
[1] This limitation may fit well in the conditionalist’s view of the soul.
[1] Given by inspiration of God of course which sets it apart from any other historical narrative.
[1] When Jesus was teaching on the Law of God he said: “So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.” (Matthew 5:23)
[1] Damning Assumptions page 79 footnote.
[1] Damning Assumptions pages 39-44
[1] I think the conditionalist argument on the “unstoppable-consuming” nature of the fires of hell is fine, but it is the attaching of “mercy” to God’s consuming wrath that causes the problem. I would dump the term “mercifully terminated” and replace it with the language of the bible—“consuming fire” or consumed (destroyed) in the fire.
[1] Ibid page 11
[1] Ibid page 12
[1] “the entire nation [of Israel] was shut up by fate as in a prison, and the Roman Army encompassed the city” Josephus, The Wars of the Jews 6.9.4
[1] “The flames were also carried a long way, and made an echo, together with the groans of the slain…One cannot imagine anything greater or more terrible than this noise…the people made sad moans at the calamity that they were under…the multitude in the city joined in the outcry…they broke out into groans and outcries again: Perea did also return the echo as well as the mountains round about the city and augmented the force of the entire noise. Yet was the misery itself more terrible then the disorder, seeming that the hill itself, on which the temple stood, was seething hot, as full of fire on every part” Josephus, The Wars of the Jews 6.5.1
[1] Damning Assumptions page 73
[1] Ibid page 35
[1] “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the [Jewish] fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing [in the old covenant] as they were from the beginning of [its] creation.” 2Peter 3:4
[1] “For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again” Hebrews 6:4-6
“we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us” 1John 2
[1] And then many will fall away. . . And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray” Matthew 24:10-11
[1] Damning Assumptions page 73-74
[1] Ibid page 73
[1] At this time it should be noted that the author of this paper does not deny that there are eternal consequences for sin, nor “after-death” consequences for the unregenerate sinner. But there is a difference between consequences and punishment. There is a difference between torment and torture. The author also does not deny the existence, or rather the significance, of “hell” as described in scripture; but one must be committed to the biblical-historical (redemptive-historical) use of such terminology in oriental literature rather than using the terminology for a modern (western) spiritualist idea or concept of the after-life.
[1] Of course not all of Mr. Sotak’s doctrinal presumptions found in his book are traditionalist; I, in this short review, have only brought out a few that I thought were.
[1] Mr. Sotak does question some of the traditionalist’s terms and the ideas and concepts behind the terms, for example “eternal fires,” but I think even the more basic terms need to be questioned and then defined.
[1] Surely “Daming Assumptions” is not intended to be an exhaustive work on any one particular subject, but rather a short introduction to the idea that there are problems in traditionalist teachings. So, it is understandable why Mr. Sotak did not break down each and every term employed.
[1] Damning Assumptions page 17
[1] Mr. Sotak barely touches on the point I’m making here when he say’s on page 18 “Even if God were to sustain the conscious existence of the damned in hell, there would be no reason, biblically speaking, to refer to them as immortal souls.” But why is there not just as much time, or even more time, devoted to consciousness as there is to the immortality of the soul?
[1] I don’t mean to say that he loses credibility as an author, only that his argument as it fits into this section of the book loses credibility.
[1] This is understandable being some modern dictionaries also define the two words similarly.
[1] This brings up another problem based on what was said earlier on in this paper about time and the eternal state. In Mr. Sotak’s presupositional leanings he has “the age to come” being the “eternal state” (consequently the end of time) and that state is entered into upon death. . . yet somehow in the conditionalist schema there is a duration of “time” in the eternal state which warrants their view of “limited” punishment. How is this duration of time regulated in the timeless eternal state when the (false) presupposition, the “age to come=eternal state,” is upheld?
[1] The reviewer had planned on continuing his work, but, this last sentence seemed to be a good concluding point.